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POST ON JWD BY “MADMEN” ON APRIL 2, 2011: Thanks everyone. I definitely "fell away" to avoid the organisation having any further control over my life - like deciding which of my family members I could talk to. This turned out to be a good call when my father died and I was able to be in the room with Witnesses coming and going without awkwardness. I have an opportunity I'd like to take advantage of that involves some media profile, but don't really want things to be difficult for my brother and his wife, who are the only two people in my life it would really affect now.

As he's in a different country it might not have the repercussions I fear but was heartened to hear that their "new" policy implied I could not be disfellowshipped if I wasn't associating. I'm not actually sure which congregation would even disfellowship me, it's been so long since I've been involved and I've moved countries several times. Part of me would love to send a letter of resignation as some of my friends have, but I don't want to give them the power that would accompany that letter. I think I'll have to roll the dice and take my chances.  

FROM MR FLIPPER: The WT society is quite good as are their elders at NOT following policy exactly to the tee anyway. I have seen elders in many different congregations handle a similar matter in dozens of different ways. It depends on the elders dealing with the judicial committee matter. AND it depends on how badly they want a certain inactive person to go away if they don't like him or her.

It really comes down to if they perceive you to be a threat to the local congregation.  It doesn't matter if you've stopped attending 2 months ago- or 10 years ago - they will still go after a person and try to DF them if JW family still in pushes them to pursue a person or they don't like you or you appear threatening. So watch your back dude ! They came after me after being out 5 years ! And occasionally they STILL try to bother me- although inactive for 7 years. Peace out, Mr. Flipper

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/208250/1/New-Disfellowshipping-Policy

FADING

Definition of Fading: The word "fading" means gradually leaving the Watchtower Society as contrasted to suddenly leaving by either disassociating your ownself usually done by letter or else being declared disfellowshipped by Watchtower’s Elders which is where they formally pronounce that you are "no longer a Jehovah's Witnesses" and so kicked out then rigidly shunned often in such extreme and cruel fashion that some people prefer death and a few actually do suicide.  In fading you are making your presence felt less and less in the congregation until you are almost invisible, not missed, so that you can quietly leave.

Before making a decision to Fade, there are a few issues we need to consider first. Focus on other Jehovah’s Witnesses in your immediate congregation or others who have “disappeared” from the Kingdom Hall.  What was the congregation’s reaction?  Was there a lot of talk in field service about them?  Did they leave without getting disfellowshipped?  Are there any Elders known for investigating inactive publishers?  If married, what will your spouse say?  Do you have children?  Are most of your relatives and friends Witnesses?  (Which long-lost helpful non-JW relatives might you be able to locate via facebook.com etc?)

Depending on your answers to these questions, it might not be necessary for you to fade. You may be able to leave without delay, but this will always be riskier than fading. (They may think you are just ill and have many call or visit you.)  Some have quit without a word, but it might be prudent to wait a few months and feel out others react to your missing meetings.  Stop commenting immediately or just read a scripture.  You don’t want to call undue attention to yourself by what you say.  Out of the mouth pours forth the heart. (Matt 12:34)

Since Jehovah’s Witnesses do not have book study groups anymore in homes, it is actually easier to start missing meetings.  Start slowly.

1. Have an Exit Plan

Although this sounds paranoid, scheduling the pace of your fade might keep you from slipping away too quickly and getting noticed.  You don’t want to get into arguments with family members who are desperate to reactivate you spiritually.  Stop commenting and get off ministry school right away.  Be prepared with a reason to explain why, if asked.   Plan each of the next steps in advance.

If you answered yes to any of the above questions you need too:

2. Make new Friends.

You’ll need emotional support when you leave. Do not try and go it alone. Before fading, get closer to family that are not witnesses and be the best Christian you can be with your Witness family members. They will need to see you as a decent person, not angry, this cuts down on shunning from some of them.

3. Seek advice and association from those who’ve done it.

It can be risky to contact other former members, but finding support groups from ex- witnesses on the internet is easier and a low risk solution.  We provide contacts at the end if this article. Don’t use your real name, city etc.  Some elders attend these sites also, taking names.  In the meantime, arrive just before start of each JW meeting.  Leave when they say amen. Don’t tarry around.  Associate less and less. Always be rushed to go somewhere.

4. Have excuses ready and cover your tracks.

If you aren’t in field service regularly, how will you explain your hours?  Low hours are acceptable now, even 15 minutes.  Lean heavily on the fact that you do informal witnessing.  If you miss meetings on Sunday, some over zealous witnesses will try and check your story. Miss every other one.

When Fading, create a list of topics you can switch to when talking to persistent witnesses. Memorize it so you don’t stutter or pause, which makes it harder for the witness to interrupt.  If Family, talk about sickness or something dealing with other family members. (Deflecting away from you.) Comment on their new car, hair style, be sincere, and be in a rush to go somewhere.  Keep your coat by the door.

5. Make yourself Hard to reach.

Get caller ID. Know your Elders’ numbers and the kingdom hall number when you see it. Get rid of voice mail.  Don’t let them leave messages.  It will become suspicious after a while if you don’t return calls to the elders!  Of course that means for a while no one can leave you messages, that is a very small price to pay.  If they just drop by, cough or be on the phone etc. Ask if they could please call first next time. Remember, elders are not above common courtesy, and you are not a child or slave.  The Bible is correct: The fear of man lays a snare (Prov 29:25). Stand up to them, insist they call first. They will probably leave you alone if you exhibit manly qualities.

6. Beware of persistent Witness friends.

As Jehovah’s Witnesses know they are to report on one another.  Some may also try to trick you into stating your doubts.  To do so, some even pretend to have doubts about the Governing Body, the Watchtower Society, etc thus inviting you as a fader to do the same. Sad to say, your enemy may be of your own household or the one who lies closest to your bosom.

Within hours, days or likely no more than a few weeks you will get a visit from two elders to establish any negative report.  It will be an apostasy meeting!  Yes, they will tell you their purpose in coming is to build you up but in fact they will be there to judge you for disfellowshipping, emotional harm.  Remember that if they decide you are an apostate, you will lose the support and association of all your family, friends and any business associate who are Witnesses. 

If you have made a previous appointment with them, keep it.  Say what they want to hear if cornered.  For example you might say something such as “Nothing against you or anyone, I’m depressed these days.  Or carefully stay polite and say very few words, perhaps noting something such as “The Bible says a wise person doesn’t say a lot.”

The big main question that Elders or someone acting on their behalf asks is usually “Do you think this is Jehovah’s organization?”  The hope is that you will say Yes so that they can have you shunned.  Or you may be asked "do you think the Watchtower Society is right about everything?"  This is more subtle but the goal is the same.  They want you to say “No,” as this will also be usable to have you declared a non-JW to be shunned.

At least so far they cannot announce you are no longer a JW just because you are inactive or because you are politely turning down their requests for making a shepherding call – although, note, if they judge your attitude as “brazen” they can if they so choose.   Due to this new use of Watchtower’s provision to disfellowship by virtue of “brazen conduct,”  these days you might or might not get by with saying: “I am depressed,” “I’m too busy,” “I don’t feel well,” “I’ll contact them when ready,” etc to put them off. 

If you mention feeling depressed, etc, they may reply with something like, “Oh, what depresses you?” and you can say something like, “Well, this old system has lasted so long.  I know it’ll end any second, but still... it’s difficult.”  They may then have you read some scripture but likely will also leave you alone, at least for a while.

Given the training from the men at the desks of the Service Department, the local Elders are more than ever leaning toward disfellowshipping.   Some Elder(s) related to you might still be inclined to give you some breathing space, but also some Elders might reason, especially if you are a relative of theirs, that giving you the boot, might show a real "zeal" that would enhance their standing within the Watchtower organization, and so be even more inclined to go after you.   It’s hard to predict, so err on the side of caution.

Possibly you will be hounded no matter what and even if you moved from one continent to another.  Indeed if one Body Of Elders knows the other congregation to which you will be moving, Watchtower orders that they are to send a letter to the other group telling what they think of you.  Further, if they have suspicion you are or ever have been an apostate by deed or thought, they can warn the other congregation’s Body Of Elders to take special precautions.  You may be subjected to years of abuse due to the letter which by the way Watchtower orders that you are never to be allowed to read.

 

Saying to an Elder "I just don't want to go to the meetings any more" can also be grounds for their getting rid of you, announcing "So-And-So is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses" which is automatically followed by your being disfellowshipped, that is cruelly shunned.

Note that if you calmly state to an Elder or Elders that you will sue them if they announce you are no longer a JW, then if they do so anyway you must be prepare to actually sue.  Toward this end, you may want to find out in advance if they have enough money to make it worth the time and money that it will cost for you to get them into court.   Also, to help for going into court, have as much documentation as possible such as signed and dated statements from others whom they may have hounded or stalked in the past. 

7. Check current Watchtower literature for upcoming discussions on how to treat apostates and ones that have left.  Particularly how shepherding calls are to be handled.  The magazines are printed in advance on the Watchtower’s official website.  Depending on what they say, this may or may not be the best time to fade, although if you wait it may get even harder to do so.  Also you know your own local and personal circumstances best.  What works for one person even in the same kingdom hall may not work as well for another person, or vice versa.

8. Move to Another Congregation! 

For many this is very helpful.  Do not get to know the new congregation, make no friends, then just stop going.  They are not that diligent.  You may get lost in the shuffle if you are not too verbal.  Sometimes it is good to be considered “weak” as  “weak ones” do not matter much among the Witnesses as much as those who laud the Watchtower Society and or its Governing Body.

After Fading:

You can use new Christian freedom to read, learn and study the Bible without a herd mentality.  You can have independent thinking and not just the thinking of the Governing Body.  You can fellowship and discuss the Bible without fear of your thoughts. By listening to others’ viewpoints, you might learn something.

To actually talk to ex-Witnesses in a spirit of love and fellowship call every Saturday night at 6pm CST (Chicago time) 732-432-8710 pin 9925#.  We have all been there.  We understand.  And, yes, we do believe you.  Some Watchtower experiences have indeed been more harrowing and cultic for some than for others.

You may feel "weak" but actually you are powerful.  Watchtower is afraid of you because when people fade out or otherwise leave they still remember the addresses of other Jehovah's Witnesses, and it's easy for those who want to to mail their friends and family who are still in it to inform them so that they too may fade out, thus depriving Watchtower of even more time, money, energy and credibility.

Unlike in past years, those fading out of Watchtower have numerous options.  There are live webcasts that have been held or via the websites. See the announcement section or contact an administrator for more info.  We accept that you may prefer anonymity as with the use of pen names, modifying your voice by keeping your tongue to the roof of your mouth, etc.  Those using webcams or posting photos may elect to modify their appearances.
 

Again, we do understand.  Watchtower-style disfellowshipping is not mild shunning or avoidance, but is shunning applied to the extreme, so severe some have suicided.  The way of Christ, though, is gentle, light and refreshing.  This article has been prepared to help you go more easily from Watchtower to Christ. 

In any case we wish well for all fading out of Watchtower.  For some it may take years to feel at 100%, for others it can be a lot quicker, especially since there are so many w
ebsites and voice forums that may be of benefit to you, for example: http://www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com, http://www.christianwitnesses.com,  http://www.freeminds.org, http://www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com/, http://www.brci.org http://www.meetup.com  http://www.facebook.com

So, that's it!  You may also want to run off copies of this in whole or part to mail others to help them also to more easily fade from Watchtower.  Re-visit time to time as there will sometimes be updates.

WHAT SOME HAVE SAID ABOUT HOW TO "FADE" FROM THE WATCHTOWER SOCIETY

Click this link to read some comments that are helpful:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/183867/1/Elder-wants-to-come-for-shepherding-call

HOW TO HANDLE "THE BIG" QUESTION

A Watchtower-appointed Elder (or even a non-Elder person/s doing the Elders' bidding) will generally ask “Do you think this is Jehovah’s organization?”  The hope is that you will say Yes so that they can have you shunned.  Or you may be asked "do you think Watchtower is right about everything?"  Their goal is for you to say No, also to be able to have you declared a non-JW to be shunned.

You can say something such as “What!!  Why in the world!  Your asking me that is offensive!”  You may also add that the Elder and local Body Of Elders is not doing a good job of taking care of the congregation.  Just don’t mention the mother organization and its heads.

The Elder will often then come back to the question saying something like, “Well, I’m just asking if you think this is Jehovah’s organization?  Yes or no?!”

Then you can answer him with something like “And I already told you that you have absolutely no right to question my relationship with Jehovah God Almighty!”  Then you can add some more comments about how he and the other local Elders do a bad job of shepherding the flock, without mentioning the Watchtower Society or its heads.

As said, Fading is not a Disfellowshipping (rigid shunning) offense.  Saying that you have doubts or thoughts that Elders can misinterpret as "apostacy" to those Elders or other JWs could get you disfellowshipped if they want to go after you.   Given the "favoritism" shown by JWs, if you are an Elder's relative, for example, they might say "Well, s/he just needs some time to feel better" or "actually s/he is just depressed, and wouldn't normally say that."  

On the other hand, an Elder might reason that by giving their own relative the boot, such "zeal" might enhance their standing within the Watchtower organization, so be even more inclined to go after you. 

Often Elders do all they can to not let you "just quietly stop attending, preaching door-to-door or outright leave."   Many will say that when Elders say they want to meet with you, it's best to just avoid them and their questions and eventually they will give up.  That might work, or in some cases, you will be hounded no matter what and even if you move from one continent to another.

Saying "I just don't want to go to the meetings any more" can also be grounds for their getting rid of you, announcing "So-And-So is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses" which is automatically followed by your being shunned.

At least so far they cannot announce you are no longer a JW just because you are inactive or turn down their requests for making a shepherding call.   You can say you are depressed, too busy, not feeling well, will contact them when ready, anything to put them off.  Sometimes that's all it takes.

You can also send a registered letter telling them you will call the police if they persist in harrassing and or trespassing.  Often that will be all that it takes for them quit.  

Another option is to calmly state that you will sue them if they announce you are no longer a JW.  That can make them to back off on trying to make you attend etc.  Just be sure you mean it.   Find out in advance if they have enough money to make it worth the time and money that it will cost for you to get them into court.  

Also, before going into court, have as much documentation as possible such as signed and dated statements from others whom they may have hounded or stalked in the past.  Click a link for even more ideas and comments:

WAYS PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT FRIENDS AND FAMILY OUT WITH THEM

THE FOLLOWING can be combined etc, however works best for your own given situation.  See also elsewhere on this website for some specific ready-made items.


LETTERS WITH SCRIPTURES PLANTING:  You send letters or other items that are in a loving tone yet convey the real truth.  Since JWs respect scriptures you include scriptures that counter the cherry-picked scriptures Watchtower uses for its zannier ideas.  So long as you don’t sign your actual name or give your actual address, they can only guess who sends the material. 
 

KNOCK-OUTS: One such item is that you send or leave about to be found items that show Christ rather than Watchtower is God’s MOST Faithful and Discreet Slave.  This underminds Watchtower’s entire underpinning.  Another knock-out item is a postcard or leaflet that simply has an easy-to-remember single word like the name of a website.  For example if it’s christianwitnesses.com they go to the website and can get tons more of information.

ORAL DRIP FEEDING (BY LUKE): You converse with JW family and/or friends although carefully and selectively about doubts or view points.   This can be effective but also be risky.   Some who act friendly may well turn you in as a possible apostate. 

ARE THEY IN A CULT QUESTION: You either speak with or send letters that ask if someone whom the receiving JW/s know/s such as a neighbor may be in a cult.  In it you describe what a cult is, not just a small fringe group, but sometimes also large groups that harm their own members and others.  As they read over the characteristics of a cult, they automatically compare them to the Watchtower Society.

UNCONDITIONAL LOVE:  You tell JW friends or family you are always there for them no matter what so that when their own crisis develops they know they have you to go to and rebuild.  This idea can be credited to Jim Whitney.