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HELL: HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL OR MIGHT GO THERE?
At Romans 5:18, Paul says "Therefore,
as through one man’s [Adam's] offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through
one Man’s [Jesus'] righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life. At Acts
24:15 he states "I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be a resurrection of both
the righteous and the wicked." At John 3:16 Christ himself says "For God so loved the world that he gave his
one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."
From the above, then, we see that since Acts 24:15 says both righteous people,
namely those knowing and doing God's will, as well as those who are unrighteous people, will both be resurrected, it shows
that God does not want most people to go to or at least not remain forever in hell but have reconciliation with Him.
John 3:16 also speaks of God loving not just part of humanity but of all in the world. Romans 5:18 directly says that
salvation is for "all" people.
However, we must also
balance this with Christ saying at Matthew 12:31 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men,
but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son
of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age
or in the age to come." So even though speaking against Christ is not unforgiveable, for example, yet speaking
against Holy Spirit is not forgiven. There is at least this one sin that is not to be forgiven.
Christ
noted while praying to God this about his apostles "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name.
Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture
might be fulfilled." (John 17:12) This meant that only Judas Iscariot had been lost. And what had he
done? He had betrayed Jesus Christ to men whom he knew intended to do harm or cause death, even though he also
knew that Christ was the Messiah not just from words but the many miracles performed.
While Revelation 7:4 and 14:3 say 144,000 go to heaven, Revelation 19:1
plainly states that in addition to those a Great Crowd (or Great Multitude in some translations) are also in heaven.
Of those who do not go to heaven but rather to hell, those will as a matter of justice receive what is called punishment,
discipline, or training to the extent that they did injustices to other people when alive, but ultimately all or most
all will, because of Christ's ransoming sacrifice, live again and in perfect bodies.
Different
Christian individuals and groups have held many different views over the years as to what kind of disciplining they receive.
Some of those many views have been literal fire or sensations of fire while under the ground, isolation from God, sleep
in non-existence, re-living the lives of victims, having to stand before God without being able to communicate or
fellowship, a combination of the preceding or various possibilities from the preceding or something else depending on
what you did or did not do while alive.
Regardless, after finally resurrected upon Earth if they try to again cause
harm then scriptures say that they will receive a Second Death from which there will be no resurrection. (Revelation 2:11,
20:14, 15) However, let us remember that God in fact does not want anyone to have to die, which is why He sent
Jesus Christ to save people from death. 2 Peter 3:9 says He is "not willing that any should perish, but that
all should come to repentance."
So whatever our past conduct may have been and our current wrongful
tendencies may be, let us strongly try to correct those in deeds of loving-kindness not merely words, (James 2:14-26) and
also remember to be forgiving those who have wronged us so that our own sins can be forgiven. (Matthew 6:12)
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HELL:
IS IT FIRE OR LIKE FIRE? HOW LONG DOES IT LAST?
In what is
called “The Parable of Lazarus And The Rich Man,” (Luke 16:19-31--see farther below) Christ speaks of a rich man
who after death had his spirit put into “fire” but at the same time Christ shows that the fire was not literal
or, even if it were, not able to harm the man's spirit as much as it would have if it had been literal fire applied to
a literal human body. We know this because Christ says the man was experiencing torment or
agony but he does not say the man was screaming, rather he notes that the man was speaking clearly.
Further, the rich man said that a single drop of water could give
him relief, which if he were in literal fire would not have been possible. One little drop of water wouldn't
put out a fire. At the same time,
though, this same parable also makes the point that God does not ignore that some people act unjustly and need discipline.
Even without putting people’s material (or spiritual) bodies into literal fire, He can still see that they receive
discipline in a fair way. Jeremiah
7 notes that unlike cruel humans God has never had it in mind to burn people in fire: 30 “The people of Judah have done
evil in my eyes, declares the LORD. They have set up their detestable idols in the house that bears my Name and have defiled
it. 31 They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire—something
I did not command, nor did it enter my mind."
The words “eternal” and “everlasting” definitely
are used in talking about fire in some of the Bible's scriptures, and yet this does not mean
that even if they apply to literal fire, the time period for disciplining of the wicked is definitely eternal or everlasting. For
example in Hebrew the word "olam," (oh-lahm) although almost always translated as eternal or everlasting, more
precisely means of an unknown but possibly long period of time. Olam (eternal/long-lasting but not eternal) is used
to describe the priesthood of Aaron which ended, Mosaic Law which ended when Christ perfectly fulfilled
it 2,000 years ago, the doors of Solomon's Temple which were destroyed, how long King David would
live and Solomon's throne would last.
Thomas B. Thayer under "Everlasting" in The Origin And History Of The
Doctrine Of Endless Punishment says "Now, as these words are used in this limited sense in the Scriptures, why should
it be supposed that they express endless duration when applied to punishment?" Hanson supports him and notes "Even
if endless duration were the intrinsic meaning of the word, all intelligent readers of the Bible would perceive that the word
must be employed to denote limited duration in the passages above cited."
The Bible Greek word "aionion" like the related English word
"eon" is a long but not eternal period of time. Some highly reputable older handbooks about Bible
Greek words say the basic meaning of "aionios" is that it normally means eternally in the sense of
forever into both the past and the future or else just forever into the future. However, when "endless"
in time is clearly meant, Greek actually more commonly uses "aidios," a different word.
Further, even those convinced that the fire or fiery condition
of punishment is indeed everlasting, must still take into consideration the fact that the word being rendered as
everlasting or eternal applies to the fire or fire-like condition itself. It is what continues. The person
being disciplined by it does not necessarily stay in it forever, and this fact also harmonizes with what we know
of God's just but fair and merciful personality.
Jude 7 says Sodom and
Gomorrah suffer “everlasting fire” but the two cities and their particular fire are not continuing. For
example if you travel about in modern Israel looking for the smoke of such a fire you will not see smoke from it
continuously going up into the air, although as an enormous stretch of the imagination someone might theorize that totally
or essentially invisible traces or vapors from it perhaps rise out of the Dead Sea.
Too, Colossians 1:19 says "For God was pleased to have all his fullness
dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross."
So a time will come when, after disciplining done in justice and in fairness, all people including the unrighteous or
unjust people will be brought back into a relationship with God. (Acts 24:15, John 3:16) In fact Christ said to the
Pharisees "tax collectors and harlots enter the kingdom of God before you" which means that even the Pharisees,
who were worse than tax collectors and harlots, after disciplined would also get another chance. (Matthew 21:31)
People die, are disciplined as God knows is most fair and just,
but ultimately they clearly see and feel that what they did was wrong and that it actually was right that they be disciplined.
At this point they are all "reconciled" to God. Revelation indicates that they will then get a second chance
at life, but if they act against God's will a second time, then they go into second death from which there will be no
resurrection. (Revelation 2:11; 20:6)
One can only speculate as to what discipline they get this second
time, for example non-existence, isolation from God's fellowship, having to re-live the lives of people whom they victimized
or something else. However there is no need to doubt but that even evildoers themselves, regardless of whatever
the type of discipline is that they may get, whether fiery, fire-like or otherwise, will have to admit in the end that
it was only what was right and fair for them to have received.
We do know that God acts with justice for 2 Thessalonians
1:6, 7 says "God is just: He will pay back trouble to those who trouble you and give relief to
you who are troubled, and to us as well." However, He is above all loving and merciful (1 John 4:8, Matthew 12:7),
definitely not taking delight in anyone having to die let alone suffer. At Ezekial 33:11 He says "Say
to them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather
that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?’"
So, this topic could encompass volumes, but what is here is enough
to have sketched out two main points. The Bible does indeed speak about God disciplining and often mentions
fire in connection with such disciplining. However, it is equally clear that how God disciplines is both just
for the victims and fair for those who are disciplined.
NOTE: FOR QUICK
REFERENCE, HERE IS CHRIST'S PARABLE ABOUT LAZARUS AND THE RICH MAN: Luke 16:19 “There was a rich man who was
dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with
sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 “The
time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried.
23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to
him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because
I am in agony in this fire.’
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HELL: PROOF THAT WATCHTOWER HEADS FALSELY
TEACH WHAT CHRISTIANS BELIEVE REGARDING HELL
The Watchtower
Society over Jehovah's Witnesses is false in implying that most all Christians teach hell fire. Actually,
even the Alliance Commission on Unity & Truth among Evangelicals (ACUTE) has stated that although most Protestants have
believed hell will be a place of endless conscious physical and spiritual torment, some of the more recent Protestant writers
describe it as eternal separation from God. Some also believe that if punishment in hell will be for all
time then it will be equal to the misdeeds of each person, and they have based this for example on Matthew 10:15 and
Luke 12:46-48.
Another question that is often asked is
“Will people who never had an opportunity to learn correctly what God wants us to do, those people who died as infants,
and the people who have mental disabilities ever have a second chance or not? ACUTE has noted that although
some say such people will experience hell fire others believe that since God, being fair and loving, He will not do such a
thing. The Watchtower Society however teaches so as to make it seem like all Christians believe God is cruel about
this.
Further, when we look back to early Christianity
we find that Christian writers such as Justin Martyr, Clement of Alexandria, Tetullian, and Cyprian believed hell is fiery,
but still others such as Origen and Gregory of Nyssa believed hell is a place or condition of separation from God causing
spiritual instead of physical suffering. Augustine of Hippo believed hell is both spiritual and a form
of physical suffering. The writer Chrysostom also saw it as symbolic instead of literal. So, contrary
to what Watchtower implies, throughout Christian history there have been different views by Christians; never have all Christians
believed that hell is definitely a place or condition of literal fire.
Writings that still exist prove
that by the 400s the most common view among Christian writers was that after sinners die there is no second chance and they
are punished forever by fire. The Inferno written by Dante (1265-1321) helped cause belief in a
fiery hell to become very common. However in the 1500sm Protestant reformers such as Martin Luther and
John Calvin believed and taught that although the Bible speaks of fiery hell it is symbolic of lasting separation from God.
During the 1600s and 1700s the belief that hell is fiery returned
to being common. For example in the British colony of Massachusetts, Jonathan Edwards wrote Sinners
In The Hands Of An Angry God. However in the 1800s and 1900s the most common belief again became that
hell is separation from God, not a literal place or condition of fire that lasts and is felt for all of time.
In modern times the Jesuit journal La Civiltà Cattolica has said
it is wrong "to think that God, by means of demons, inflicts fearful torments on the damned like that of fire... Hell
exists, not as a place but as a state, a way of being of the person who suffers the pain of the deprivation of God."
In 1999 the Roman Catholic Pope John Paul II said, "Rather than a place, hell indicates the state
of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy."
The Episcopal Church has stated
that hell is "eternal death in our rejection of God." Not only many church groups believe similarly,
but individuals in the various churches, for example individuals in the Disciples of Christ and a lot who are Baptists, either
believe hell is not literal fire or else are not sure although they do believe that whatever it may be is a painful or very
undesirable punishment or disciplining.
Even among those
who believe and teach that hell is fiery there are different views as to how long a wicked person experiences it.
For example it is noted that at Jeremiah 17:27 says Jerusalem was destroyed with unquenchable fire, and yet today we
see Jerusalem is not on fire. 1 Samuel 1:22, 28 indicates that the word translated as forever means the
length of a man’s life or so long as a man lives. At Psalm 48:14 the word forever means until death.
Jude 7 says God
destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah with everlasting or eternal fire and 2 Peter 2:6 says the cities turned into ashes.
Yet today one does not see smoke rising up from remains of those cities. In other words, the fire
was eternal or everlasting only until the cities were destroyed although the result of the fire has continued.
True, Matthew 25:46 says
“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” This speaks
of eternal punishment but in which sense? Does it mean people are punished throughout all of time, or does
it mean that punishment is given to people only for a fitting period of time (or time varying per the extent or degree of
each person’s sins) although the consequences of it is eternal? We can speculate but the real truth
is that we cannot be for sure although be comforted that whatever God metes out as justice will be totally fair and in line
with the fact that His main characteristic is love.
Nevertheless,
Christians would be unwise to think it unnecessary to be concerned about how God may judge and deal with them.
For example, Revelation 21:8 says “But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral,
those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur.
This is the second death.”
Thus even among those
who believe God may not use literal fire on the wicked and or not do so for all of the existence of time itself, it is pointed
out that all the same it is good for anyone who does or thinks about doing grevious sinning to not be overly confident or
think that s/he will escape the painful consequences of justice.
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HELL: SOME GENERAL POINTS ABOUT GOD'S DISCIPLINE
AFTER DEATH NOT BEING UNFAIR OR EXTREME
There is every reason to believe that the judgment
of our heavenly Father brings a discipline that is not excessive but always just right. In fact 1 John
4:8 says that God’s main characteristic is “love.” To also be just, our heavenly Father appropriately
punishes heinous misconduct but His punishment or chastisement is never inappropriate, never unduly harsh, unjust, unfair,
off-balance, or unloving.
The Christian Bible speaks of some people after death receiving discipline
in an appropriate way or ways variously viewed as possibly literal or fire, re-living the lives of victims, sleep,
isolation etc; finally reconciled and given a second chance by resurrection, some however falling again into wrongdoing and
justly receiving a Second Death that is lasting. (Revelation 2:11, 20:14, 15)
We humans when we see someone mercilessly torture an innocent animal or child, for example, also naturally believe that
some form of justice definitely needs done. The need to have justice after death if not in this life
for the sake of victims has transcended time and spanned all cultures, for example, among the Greeks, Roman, Chinese,
etc.
Although it's true that people don't always agree about everything, we who are Christians
are united in being thankful that the Son of God, Jesus Christ, came, died and was resurrected, offering us similar hope
of resurrection. (John 3:16) Our "unity" is based on love, not everyone believing the exact same
thing about this or any number of other topics. (Be sure to read Colossians 3:14.)
Let us remember that Christ
himself who was and is perfect spent three days preaching to the dead. This was in “hades” (read Acts
2:31) which unlike “hell” or Second Death has also been said to not be a permanent place or condition. (Revelation
20:11-15)
We who are in the flesh on earth today are all imperfect humans and so we must also die (1
Corinthians 15:22, Romans 5:12) but we can rest assured that our imperfect conduct and thinking as well as all of our
sincerely shown repentance will be perfectly weighed by the only perfect and final Judge, our Father in heaven
whose main quality is love. His justice is fair and appropriate. He wants all to be saved from death.
The apostle Paul previously hated and helped slay Christians such as Stephan (Acts 6:8-8:1), and King Manasseh murdered
many innocent people. (2 Kings 21:16-26) Yet Both repented, God knew their sincerity and so forgave them.
It is said that Paul was himself later crucified and though forgiven Mannaseh's sins were justly dealt with otherwise.
King David wrongly caused the death of his Hittite warrior Uriah in order to get the man's wife Bathsheba, was
strongly disciplined for having done so but then also forgiven.
So if we have done something similar,
we need to not think that we can not ever be forgiven. God always knows the best way to do things. Since our
Father in heaven forgave Mannaseh, Paul, King David and many many others, we can be sure that He will forgive us to for
whom Christ also came and died as well as deal in the most fair and loving way possibly for any number of other people
throughout history from Adam and Eve onward, including surely too all the millions of babies, infants and children.
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HELL:
WHY TEACHING THAT EVILDOERS JUST SLEEP FOREVER AFTER DEATH IS FALSE AND WRONG TO DO
NOTE: Credit for the most insightful thoughts in the following
about Hell (Sheol, Hades) and in particular about its location and even its change of location, goes to David A. Reed who
was an Elder among Jehovah's Witnesses and who is now a prolific writer of Christian literature.
Getting to sleep after death is peaceful, and so is it truly justice
for violent, wicked people to get to just sleep forever, their victims thus never having justice
done on their behalf? Should the only punishment for a person who killed and tortured a million people be the same as
for others who did fewer things that are wrong?
Yet the men at the top of the Watchtower Society over Jehovah’s
Witnesses says they and only they have all the right answers, and that all the dead (=evil persons too)
just sleep peacefully. If that's so then the worst of evildoers never have to feel any consequences any
more than the peaceful people whom they hurt, tortured or murdered. Yet that would make God unjust, unfair
to the victims.
However, regardless of Watchtower's views, if God judges that some kind of strong punishment
does befit some extremely wicked people, well, then whatever God may have decided is right. His being God, who
is totally holy or perfect, means that His judgments are also perfectly right and fair. Even among humans it's an
injustice to not punish murderers.
Watchtower teaches that any and all verses that tell of punishment by fire
or torment must just all be symbolic, and yet when we read Acts 24:25 (please
do so) and discover that Paul told Felix there is a coming scary judgment, are we to just out-of-hand mark it as just being
symbolic? Or doesn't it in fact show that Paul indeed indeed is speaking of a scary judgment and he meant
exactly what he said?
When Paul also wrote, “keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling”
(Philippians 2:12), he also clearly meant what he said. For evildoers to get to just sleep away forever would
not be a “punishment” that would lead anyone to be in fear of it or trembling. If you still are missing
the point, go back to re-read these passages and meditate on them. It's definitely important. Getting to sleep forever could even be viewed as a reward for evildoers, a comforting thought
for them when they get ready to go out to kill or otherwise harm innocent victims.
Yet scriptures do also
speak of people sleeping in death. For example Christ resurrected a little girl whom he had said was asleep. (John
9:24, 25) However, there is no indication that she was any kind of an extreme evildoer. It is reasonable
that God is also reasonable in disciplining the dead as well as the living. So some of the dead may be at rest, others
punished by fire or a fire-like condition, perhaps having to experience a feeling of isolation, etc, however God knows best.
But above all God is merciful and loving. (Matthew 12:7, 1 John 4:8) At John 3:16 Christ says he died so that
all might live; and Paul at Acts 24:15 says the just and unjust (or in some translations "the righteous and unrighteous")
will be resurrected. All are then perfectly judged by God, some to rightly, justly, perfectly receive eternal life but
others to be rightly, justly, perfectly punished.
The Bible says that
at death the body is no longer conscious (Ecclesiastes 9:5) and of course it turns into dust. But other scriptures
show that the spirit that was with the body, continues to exist and definitely is conscious. For example, it is well-known
that Paul looked forward to leaving behind his body and going to heaven, scriptures speak of 144,000 in heaven (Revelation
7:4, and Revelation 14:3), and Revelation 19:1 adds that there is a Great Crowd or multitude there. John 5:28, 29 for
example speaks of people being resurrected from Memorial Tombs and Christ and the Prophets also resurrected some
people here upon the Earth.
Revelation 6:9 says
that souls rewarded with new life as spirits after having been slain are in heaven, are still conscious of and concerned about
what happens on earth. Christ says at Luke 12:5 there is also the opposite of a reward for some after death:
"Do not fear those who kill the body and after this are not able to do anything more. But I will indicate to you
whom to fear: Fear him who after killing has authority to throw into Gehenna.”
Isaiah 14:9-11 says upon entering Sheol or the afterlife, those already there
speak about how those there are reduced in power. So it too confirms the existence of an afterlife. John 3:13
says "No man has ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the Son of man.." Even Jacob expected to
go to sheol (Hebrews for grave or afterlife) after dying. Acts 2:31 says that after dying Christ also went to hades
(Greek for grave or afterlife), preached to spirits imprisoned there but that he was not abandoned or left there. (1 Peter
3:19) Please look up these scriptures to be sure of this.
Christ used parables, which
by definition are stories that do not consist of nothing but symbols as Watchtower has claimed, but which are illustrative
for making a larger point or points. In one parable he said that a rich man and a beggar named Lazarus both died
and went to the afterlife (hades). The rich man was suffering from the fire there, so he asked Abraham to let the Lazarus
give him some water. Abraham said that was not possible due to the rich man’s former life, and besides,
a gulf was located between them.
So in hades, sheol, or the afterlife, the beggar Lazarus was rewarded by
getting to later go on to enjoy the afterlife with Abraham. Sheol or the afterlife is shown to consist of two areas
or conditions, one of which is enjoyble, but the other one being something that unrepentant wrongdoers rightly need to
fear. (Luke 16:19-31) Sheol or Hades is also shown by this parable to be a temporary place of discipline after
which one can be rewarded or may pass on to eternal hell.
As noted, Watchtower likes to point out that what Christ said was a parable and proclaim that a parable is symbolic. However,
as also noted, it is not wholly just symbolic but illustrative and factual. Look it up in a decent dictionary and
see for yourself.
Also, even if this particular account were not a parable but totally symbolic,
it still makes the overall points that in one way or another God does give appropriate justice to those who have done grievous
wrong things when alive, while also rewarding those who although imperfect are sincerely sorry for the wrongs they have done.
In the Bible when Christ was dying he told a repentant
wrongdoer dying nearby him that today that man would be in paradise with him. So, upon death, they both went to the
afterlife and for Christ and the repentant wrongdoer, this was not a Sheol or Hades of torment, but that which was Abrahamic
or like "paradise" for sincere, decent persons. (Luke 23:43)
Notice that
Christ said that a time would come when many came from east and west to sit with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob: “in the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 8:11) God was not ashamed of the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac and
Jacob, so after Christ had received resurrection, they too were transferred from Hades, on up to “heavenly Jerusalem.”
So, getting to live amidst the stunning glories of the star-packed heaven or what moderns also call outer space is
a reward for the spirits of all righteous people as instituted since the ransom sacrifice of Christ. (Hebrews 12:22-23; Eph
4:8-10)
Interestingly although Watchtower
heads keep on calling and misteaching JWs to teach that Hades, Sheol or Hell is a purely symbolic place or condition, they
do not equally call heaven a purely symbolic place or condition. Instead they admit that heaven is for real but
then claim that the number of those which Revelation says will get to go there, that is 144,000, is only a literal or
symbolic number. (Revelation 7:4, and Revelation 14:3) To the contrary, Revelation 19:1 says a Great
Multitude or Crowd will live on Earth. Please read it. Our bodies of flesh are dying but if we have not grieved God’s Holy Spirit,
then we have the resurrection hope. When Christ visibly returns, those then alive will have their bodies changed in
a twinkling into imperishable spirit bodies. Those already with Christ as spirits in heaven will be resurrected with bodies
upon earth. (2 Cor. 4:14-5:8; 1 Thess 4:15-17; 1 Cor. 15:42-58) No human knows when such changes of fleshly bodies
and spirit bodies will occur, nor do we know all the details.
Likewise, we do not know all the other details about God meting out
justice to the various wrongdoers who have died. For example, will the man who robbed a bank to feed his hungry family
suffer as long and as much as another man who robbed ten banks out of pure greediness? It would seem not, but then that
is only a guess. Only God knows for sure.
Also, will God resurrect only good Christians or is the
resurrection hope open to non-Christians since Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David were Jews; and Job was an “Oriental”
not said to have been Jewish but definitely considered righteous? We can weigh the different scriptures and say what
we think might be the case, but the reality is that in this life we cannot be fully certain but trust that after death if
and when God so wills, He will rightly inform us.
Watchtower
has said it has all the answers even though it backs off and proclaims it has new and different light, having done so many
times regardubg different things. All good, decent persons who truly love and put Christ first among Jehovah’s
Witnesses need to come out of the Watchtower Society, draw close to God Almighty. Being a witnessing Christian is far
better than being a Jehovah’s Witness misled by Watchtower instead of the one and only MOST Faithful and Discreet
Slave who is Christ himself.
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HELL: IF IT IS A PLACE OF LITERAL FIRE, THEN
WHERE IS IT ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURES?
Although spirits do not have physical
bodies, it appears that all the same their spirit bodies can experience feelings such as pain and fear. Logically, hell
might not be located inside the earth, that is under the ground but in another dimension or universe. However,
the question in this particular publication is not actually where all might hell be, but rather it is
What Does The Bible Say About The Location of Hell?
First,
let us consider some scriptures in the New Testament. At Matthew 12:40 Christ says "for as Jonah was three days
and three nights in the belly of the whale; so shall the Son of man be three days and three
nights in the heart of the earth." At Philippians 2:10 the
apostle Paul notes “that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under
the earth.” At Ephesians 4:7 Paul says of
Christ “But to each one of us grace has been given as Christ apportioned it. 8 This is why it says: “When he ascended
on high, he took many captives and gave gifts to his people.” 9 (What does “he ascended” mean except
that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions? 10 He who descended is the very one who ascended higher
than all the heavens, in order to fill the whole universe.)”
At Deuteronomy 32:22, God Almighty
(Yahweh/Jehovah) says “For a fire will be kindled by my wrath, one that burns down to the realm of the
dead below. It will devour the earth and its harvests and set afire the foundations of the mountains.” Psalm
86:13 adds “For great is your love toward me; you have delivered me from the depths, from the
realm of the dead.” Proverbs 15:24 similarly notes “The path of life leads upward for the prudent to
keep them from going down to the realm of the dead.” Isaiah
14:9 says that not just dead bodies but spirits which speak are there: The realm of the dead below is all
astir to meet you at your coming; it rouses the spirits of the departed to greet you— all those who were leaders in
the world; it makes them rise from their thrones— all those who were kings over the nations. 10 They
will all respond, they will say to you, “You also have become weak, as we are; you have become
like us.”
So according to these and other scriptures it does appear that the scriptures
speak of hell as below the surface of our own planet. It may or may not be a physical place any more
than the spirits there are physical. It might be another dimension, place or condition of existence for
souls, that is spirits without bodies, but regardless scriptures clearly show that we need to be concerned
to not experience hell God does not fiendishly delight in tormenting human spirits as would Satan, but rather the
punishment, disciplining or training that occurs there for extreme evildoers shall only be exactly what is
most fitting and it needs to be perceived as such.
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HELL: WHY PEOPLE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT IT
Is what happens to us after we die something to not be concerned too much about,
for example, if we simply go into eternal sleep or separation from God? Or might there be major reasons
to actually be scared about what is going to happen at that time?
To begin, at Matthew 5:22 in the New International Version, Christ
says “But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again,
anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’ [note: a word then used to show contempt] is answerable to the
court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.” Here we notice that being
angry with a brother without good reason put us in danger of adverse judgment from human council, but hell fire is even greater
than such a danger. So, it appears to be something to be concerned about.
Then we notice that Paul at Acts
24:25 says in the Contemporary English Version, “But Felix was frightened when Paul started talking to them [Felix,
Bernice, Agrippa II] about doing right, about self-control, and about the coming judgment. So he said to Paul, ‘That's
enough for now. You may go. But when I have time I will send for you.’" The Good News
Translation says “But as Paul went on discussing about goodness, self-control, and the coming Day of Judgment, Felix
was afraid and said, ‘You may leave now. I will call you again when I get the chance.’”
What comes through is that whatever
Paul said to the powerful man Felix and his sister Bernice as well as the even more power King Agrippa II, it was very scary
or terrifying. It was not on the order of saying “after death God judges your conduct and if it was
bad you must sleep forever,” or “if you behave bad while alive then after death you will be isolated from God.”
Rather, it was more like “listen, you had better pay attention because if God finds your conduct
was too bad then you are going had better be afraid of what is going to happen to you!”
At Matthew 5:29 Christ says "If your right eye causes you to stumble,
gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into
hell." At Matthew 18:8 he adds “If your hand
or your foot causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or crippled than
to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into eternal fire.” Matthew 13:41 The Son of Man will send out his
angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. 42 They will throw them into
the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. (Also compare: Matthew 25:41) So Jesus Christ,
the Son of God, also said to be concerned!
Sleep and isolation are also not pleasant,
but roasting in literal fire or a condition comparable to it would be even more frightful. So, since we
have not been to hell yet, we might be wrong in thinking it is worse than sleeping in death or not having access to and fellowship
with God, but in any case, it would seem extremely unwise to think that it is inconsequential according to the scriptures.
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